I asked Kevin to join me on the range for a podcast-style chat — just two golf pros shooting the breeze. What started as an interview turned into something much more: a live lesson, a few bloopers, and a chance for me to share some of my own playing and teaching philosophy.
Part 1: The Lesson
Before we even got into the podcast, Kevin was working through a swing issue. He was losing his lag early in the downswing and trying to hold the clubhead back longer. That’s when we rolled into an impromptu lesson.
I explained that casting early usually happens when body rotation slows down through impact. If the body stalls, the hands try to take over. And if you overdo holding lag with just your hands, the result is the dreaded shank. The key is keeping rotation alive, not forcing lag.
Eight minutes later, we had worked through the move and Kevin was hitting it cleaner. That real-time lesson became the perfect warmup for the conversation that followed.
Here is the 8-minute lesson on lag and body movement through impact.
Part 2: The Conversation
Once we got into the podcast, I opened by asking Kevin a simple question: “I was a pretty good golfer years ago, but I don’t have time to practice much anymore. If I go out with friends, what’s your advice for just having fun?”
We stayed on that for a while. Then Kevin flipped it on me, asking how I used to play and practice back in my competitive days. Suddenly, I became the focus of our podcast. It was a lot of fun to tell stories about my playing experiences and explain some of the teaching philosophy that guides me today.
Before long, I turned the interview back to him. Kevin shared his approach to preparing a young player for a tournament and how that’s different from working with a more experienced adult golfer. It was the kind of back-and-forth that shows just how many layers there are in golf instruction.
Here is the conversation video, stories, lessons, and laughs on the range.
Part 3: The Philosophy
The best part? None of this was scripted. The video took an unexpected turn, and that made it better. It reminded me why I love this game: golf is about awareness, learning, and sharing stories — not just mechanics.
We laughed, we swapped roles, and we let the conversation wander. That’s golf. That’s teaching. And that’s why I enjoyed filming this as much as I enjoy playing.
Closing
Here’s the rough cut of the video. Please enjoy — bloopers included. I’m working on the edited version now, and it’ll be up in a few weeks. The polished release will roll right into our Black Friday promotion for golf lessons at Sugarbush.
This was as fun to film as it was to play golf itself.

